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September 3, 2008

Google Chrome privacy worse than you think

Filed under: google, privacy, slashdotted — Tags: , , — coderrr @ 10:11 am

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Update: Google has stated that they are working on a change to their system which will anonymize all data collected from their suggestion services (including Chrome) after 24 hours. This is exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for. Good job Google!
Update: Maybe Google’s new privacy policy isn’t good enough after all.

A friend of mine let me in on some info about Google’s secret Chrome project about 6 months ago but I didn’t get to actually try it till yesterday. I’m pretty impressed with some of their new innovative features like independent processes for tabs, compiled javascript, and the incognito mode.

But then I realized something huge. If you use Google Chrome, Google will know every URL you type into the location bar. More than that, they will know (almost) every partial URL you type into the location bar. More than that, they will know every word or phrase you type into the location bar, even if you type it and then delete it before pressing enter. More than that, all this information can be linked with your main Google account, because Google sends your cookie along with every automatic search it performs from the location bar. Chrome will use the cookie of whatever Google account you are currently logged into.

No other browser that I know of uses an automatic search/suggest feature in the location bar. The location bar is where you type the address of the site you want to navigate to. Firefox uses a suggest feature in the search bar. It makes sense to do it there. Google.com now has auto suggest on their homepage. It makes sense there too. Now it makes sense to also have it in the location bar in terms of a nice helpful feature. But in terms of privacy I think this is a new low. I think Google should, at the least, not be sending your cookie out with these searches. But even then they could be connected to you by IP.

Don’t believe me? Go download the Wireshark packet sniffer and do some tests for yourself.

Now to be fair it seems they don’t auto suggest once you’ve typed “http://” but who actually types that anymore? There are also some timing issues, if you type really quickly and hit enter the auto suggest may not be attempted.

I’m sure there’s a team of Google data mining engineers somewhere who are giddy as shit about having all this information once Chrome becomes more widespread.

Update: Google responded to a CNET story about this issue regarding their data retention policy:

A Google representative told CNET News that the company plans to store about 2 percent of that data–and plans to store it along with the Internet Protocol address of the computer that typed it.

Update: As Rushi Vishavadia points out, the data will be sent to whatever search engine you set in the options. Of course it will default to Google but if you were to change it to Yahoo or MSN they would be receiving this data instead of Google.

Here’s an example of what Chrome is sending to Google while I’m typing the URL http://www.whatismyip.com into the location bar:

GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=ww HTTP/1.1
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=www HTTP/1.1
...
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=www.what HTTP/1.1
...
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=www.whatismyip.c HTTP/1.1
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=www.whatismyip.co HTTP/1.1
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=www.whatismyip.com HTTP/1.1

Here’s an example when I’m typing the search query “how to cheat on taxes” into the location bar:

GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=how HTTP/1.1
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=how+t HTTP/1.1
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=how+to HTTP/1.1
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=how+to+c HTTP/1.1
...
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=how+to+cheat+on+tax HTTP/1.1
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=how+to+cheat+on+taxe HTTP/1.1
GET /complete/search?client=chrome&output=chrome&hl=en-US&q=how+to+cheat+on+taxes HTTP/1.1

Even if I never pressed enter to submit the above search to Google, they would still have this data and be able to link it to my account.

I should point out this feature can be disabled by going to Options -> Manage -> Uncheck “Use a suggestion …”

134 Comments »

  1. This is definitely going to strike fear into every person who looks at or type in sites they shouldn’t while using chrome. You know who you are, and you should be afraid. Afraid because whether you’re using chrome or not, you’re doing something bad. And that’s stupid. And eventually it will make you sad. And being sad is scary. Here’s a tip, don’t do bad things.

    Comment by Ryan — September 3, 2008 @ 5:33 pm

    • What is “bad”?

      You don’t do bad things do you?

      Your opinion about right and wrong is just and correct and not subject to ridicule, or penalty?

      It’s easy to pass judgement when you are pefect, eh?

      Comment by Increase Search Engine Ranking — May 2, 2009 @ 4:45 pm

      • everyones a criminal these days, that’swhy criminal justice is the biggest growing field for jobs.

        Thats the easiest way to keep people under control, make them criminals.

        Comment by Anonymous — November 22, 2010 @ 2:56 pm

    • Some things are not morally wrong, but they are still looked down on by society. If these things were to be exposed it could hurt a person’s reputation. Get off of your high horse.

      Comment by X — November 17, 2009 @ 7:51 am

    • People gladly agree to let facebook sell all their personal infomation to ad sites.

      So if you are using facebook allready. Then you shouldn’t be afraid of google saving your search history.

      Comment by Kene — February 13, 2010 @ 8:09 pm

      • On the other hand, this is information you are in control over.

        Comment by Anonymous — April 3, 2011 @ 9:01 am

  2. That will happen with any search engine you use with Chrome. You can use MSN Live or Yahoo Search with Chrome as well.

    Comment by Rushi Vishavadia — September 3, 2008 @ 5:46 pm

    • Yeah, Google Chrome is an awesome browser, I just don’t use it because I use Firefox. And Chrome is just like a keylogger: it saves whatever you type in it and sents to Google. But I think they’ve changed this now with the latest version.

      Comment by feh — December 20, 2009 @ 12:25 am

  3. @Ryan: you’re right.
    Let’s just live in fear, it’s a lot easier that way.

    Comment by V2 — September 3, 2008 @ 5:53 pm

  4. IE is going to offer users a chance to set IE to “private”, which will block Google’s Adwords advertising then Google Chrome born. Google Chrome is clean and fast. But I love Firefox.

    Comment by Thai SEO — September 3, 2008 @ 6:06 pm

  5. It’s the same as Google Docs so, meh.

    Comment by Rob — September 3, 2008 @ 6:23 pm

  6. So what you are telling me is that I can overload google’s data miners by writing an app that will do pointless searches all day. Then I can pass this app on to everyone else who has virtually unlimited internet. Do you think they limit it to a max # of times per IP?

    Comment by Zach — September 3, 2008 @ 6:36 pm

    • I like it! please!!

      Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2013 @ 11:21 pm

  7. It doesn’t “default to Google” it actually defaults to whatever your previous browser setting was. BTW Firefox 3.0 and 3.1 do this as well, it’s nothing new.

    Comment by ppilatee — September 3, 2008 @ 10:08 pm

  8. this isn’t that scary at all. there’s only one way to make recommendations as you type – and that’s to submit the data as it’s being typed. this happens in firefox, IE, and safari if you use pretty much any modern search feature on most popular webpages.

    i’d be more scared if this was happening while I was typing in a textbox like the one i’m using now to make this comment…

    Comment by mjg — September 3, 2008 @ 11:06 pm

  9. @mjg: I think you missed the part where this is happening in the location bar. The place where you usually type the URL of websites. In all other browsers this happens in the search bar, not the location bar. All other browsers won’t send the URLs you type into the location bar to a search engine for suggestions, but that is what is occurring now with Chrome.

    Comment by coderrr — September 3, 2008 @ 11:37 pm

  10. And when you click through on a search result on Live Search, Yahoo, Google, Amazon, Wikia, etc., the Web site you click through gets recorded on their servers.

    I don’t see where you’re going with this. Yes, the browser is sending data to be used to aggregate suggestions. And yes, the address bar and the search bar are the same in Chrome. But this kind of aggregated anonymized data is very *very* old stuff. Yahoo’s been doing it for years. You just happened to notice this kind of conventional technology with this browser.

    Comment by PZ — September 4, 2008 @ 2:13 am

    • Hint: Yahoo is not a browser.

      Comment by bobbrks — February 18, 2010 @ 6:07 pm

  11. on “anonymized”

    It does not matter “who eats the peanut in home”. For a peanut seller knowing “some one in home eats the peanut” is sufficient to start selling peanut.

    Same with google, google as a web super power is molding web’s direction only with business in mind. Example Adwords.

    Comment by freecheese — September 4, 2008 @ 6:35 am

  12. >> It doesn’t “default to Google” it actually defaults to whatever your previous browser setting was. BTW Firefox 3.0 and 3.1 do this as well, it’s nothing new.

    Google toolbar started it.

    Comment by Anonymous — September 4, 2008 @ 6:50 am

  13. >>It doesn’t “default to Google” it actually defaults to whatever your previous browser setting was. BTW Firefox 3.0 and 3.1 do this as well, it’s nothing new.

    Google toolbar started it.

    Comment by freecheese — September 4, 2008 @ 6:50 am

  14. This is just ur last option to find some controversy out of this.. Nothing else. This is something what most of the modern browsers do now.. (not sure about Ie8)… There is nothing to fear about if u don’t have a criminal cyber-life…

    Comment by Abey — September 4, 2008 @ 7:00 am

    • What about when they sell this to companies the will bombard you with advertising?

      Comment by bobbrks — February 18, 2010 @ 6:10 pm

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  17. To me the automatic search/suggest feature could potentially be a windfall for Google, especially as it launches an ad publishing network and ad exchange. The ability to steer traffic to sites running Google AdSense, and to be able to optimize that traffic based on the eCPM of the sites in that network, creates an incredible ability to drive traffic based upon the same Google optimization engine used for AdWords. This is a great thing for Google, but may be a suboptimal solution for users.

    This clearly eliminates the middle man in Google’s path to unfettered access to as much data as Google’s thousands of servers can process and leverage in it’s desire to deliver more “relevant” ads. Please, since when did relevant ads have value. Relevant content and news, great. Relevant ads are the creation online advertisers and those who are willing to continue to drink that kool-aid.

    You may also want to read the privacy policy associated with the install, prior to the install. It’s pretty telling.

    Comment by vallen — September 4, 2008 @ 7:48 am

  18. You can easily turn off the autocomplete.

    Go to Options, then click to Manage default search and then untick the checkbox marked “Use a suggestion service to autocomplete searches and URLs typed in the address bar”

    Comment by John — September 4, 2008 @ 8:20 am

  19. OH MY GOD!! TERRORISTS ALERT!!!!

    Comment by Marcio — September 4, 2008 @ 8:48 am

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  21. its scary anyway.. so I’m not going to install chrome.

    Comment by Eike — September 4, 2008 @ 10:40 am

  22. its scary anyway.. so I’m not going to install chrome.

    Comment by Eike — September 4, 2008 @ 10:41 am

  23. I love FF, and will stick to it. Chrome is a fad will pass away, unless Google does something evil.

    Comment by chirax — September 4, 2008 @ 2:34 pm

  24. This IS Evil! You know, for years sites like Scroogle have been warning everyone about the really questionable business practices going on over at Google – and their incredibly tongue in cheek Mission Statement “Do No Evil”. Google needs to switch from their ad based corporate philosophy to more of a bank one. There are ways to target folks with appropriate ads without all of this intrusive spyware, and don’t even think of arguing with me here, this IS Spyware! In fact 90% of their products feature spying and data mining storage with virtually no expiration date. I used to think Microsoft’s Privacy Policy was bad – no more. Google now tops the list of worst privacy violator with Chrome. SHAME ON YOU GOOGLE! Put our Privacy FIRST from now on, ads second, or you ARE going to lose ALL of your customer base. For Privacy is OUR first concern. Doubt it? Put out one more product like this and watch your public turn on you like hyenas with the smell of fresh blood in their noses.

    Comment by M.E. — September 4, 2008 @ 3:03 pm

    • I recently changed my search provider to Scroogle Scraper and recommend it for everyone if you like the search results, but your privacy as well.

      Comment by Increase Search Engine Ranking — May 2, 2009 @ 4:51 pm

      • There is also ixquick.com.

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  27. This sounds like that they want to know everyone’s every move. It can be good and bad. The good side is they could monitor people that could be a threat, the bad side is that they know everything you do.

    Comment by austingndr — September 4, 2008 @ 6:34 pm

  28. Has anyone else been successfully able to actually turn off the auto suggest feature? I have read the instructions and unchecked that box, but it does not work and they still continue to fill in suggestions. Was just curious if this is just my computer or if others have been successful in turning if off?

    Comment by RLF — September 4, 2008 @ 6:43 pm

    • i’m having similar problems with Google’s preferences, it doesn’t keep them, especially two i’m big on:
      - show search results in new window; it never remembers this one, i have to set it back on again and again and again…
      - whenever i set the auto suggest feature off it lasts only for the session i’m on,
      actually i have to reset all of my preferences each and every time i start a new session,
      i tried to contact Google about that, yeah, well, tough luck, there’s no way to contact them directly that i know of — well, you could actually send them a letter by mail… — you keep being redirect around and around on their multiple Help, FAQ and Forums pages, not one giving you direct access to them, not a one…

      Comment by Jean — September 4, 2009 @ 6:43 pm

  29. ah, screw it. google already KNOWS everything I’ve ever done. If you want to be anonymous use a proxy, or better yet – don’t get on the internet.

    zach – yes. google DOES limit the # of queries you can do in a day. I’m booted off several times a week.

    Comment by floridaforeclosure — September 4, 2008 @ 7:23 pm

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  32. …err. This is not a privacy issue at all. Those data collected by Google are stored on an indexing machine and will be used as search queries. After that, they’ll be deleted. Anyway, your IP address and private information isn’t sent. Just the search queries. These things are the same data sent to Google when you search for something using their main web page — or if you use Firefox search.

    Comment by Francis Panganiban — September 4, 2008 @ 11:09 pm

    • Any web developer can tell you that IP addresses don’t need to be “sent”. Whenever any communication takes place on a standard HTTP link both computers (or in this instance your home & Google’s servers) already know each other’s IP address.

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  34. Thanks for this info. I’ve added it to a growing list of Google Chrome features and issues.

    Comment by Matt — September 5, 2008 @ 3:34 pm

  35. so what’s the difference between spyware and this? will anti-spyware / anti-virus tools warn you when you use google chorme?

    Comment by one — September 6, 2008 @ 4:53 pm

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  37. Chrome is Free Software. If people have a problem with this behavior you can be assured that it will be forked. Google just wants to get the technology out there and inspire improvement and standards compliance in browsers so that people can use their apps so they can continue to challenge Microsoft. Google isn’t really counting on Chrome to report back everything you do.

    Comment by Tracy Reed — September 7, 2008 @ 2:55 am

  38. so a friend, or was it a movie, once said “location location location” concerning real estate.. or was it nipple clamps..?

    when dealing with major statements, these being corporate, government, or basically someone you know you cannot generally trust, it all boils down to details details details. DETAILS MF!

    “A Google representative told CNET News that the company plans to store about 2 percent of that data–and plans to store it along with the Internet Protocol address of the computer that typed it.”

    clear definition of 2%? anything that is typed into the bar? just urls? just requests for searches? etc etc.

    so it’s storing out ip too? again, for which requests? further, can we influence the storing? opt out perhaps?

    dont be evil is so laughable. google is nearlz as bad as ms or apple – onlz they actually effing provide.

    i am truly unhappy with the general situation.

    Comment by eltaco — September 7, 2008 @ 3:01 am

    • Google’s 2% is what they story. Clearly they don’t mention what data they actually sell or give out to outsiders, like the fed. gov’t. Really the whole internet is going this direction, where everything about you will be datamined, to the point that they pretty much will have a physical and psychological profile on you, and can thus predict your likes and dislikes, habits and thought process before you have even done anything. It is really disturbing, and it is sad that people are starting to get a little angry now when we should have been angry in the 90′s.

      Comment by agusa — April 19, 2010 @ 12:26 am

  39. Even if Google weren’t misusing it would still be evil, since the data is sent as unencrypted GET. This means that every provider en route to Google could potentially see what you type.

    With the current structure of the Internet, such features need to be client side only.

    Comment by Some Bloke — September 7, 2008 @ 8:06 am

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  41. Some Bloke: “Even if Google weren’t misusing it would still be evil, since the data is sent as unencrypted GET. This means that every provider en route to Google could potentially see what you type.”

    Um, yeah- what do you think happens when you actually do a web search? That’s right- the data gets sent to the search engine, unencrypted.

    Comment by 34 — September 8, 2008 @ 4:09 am

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  43. Pretty scary. But maybe Google somehow now has the bad image Microsoft had when they took over Netscape. So people (especially those who care) won’t use Chrome. Instead they tend to the great alternatives such as Safari, Konqueror, iCab, Firefox, Mozilla, …

    Comment by flöschen — September 8, 2008 @ 6:12 pm

  44. I’m using a program similar to Wireshark and with Incognito mode activate (Ctrl+Shift+N), Chrome doesn’t send out any http packets while typing in the address bar.

    Comment by P120D1GY — September 8, 2008 @ 11:50 pm

  45. Also, Firefox sends out data as well when using the search field next to the address bar. Try Google, Yahoo, Answer.com, etc. Most of the search providers that come with the default install of Firefox 3 will query the providers web-service to return relevant results.

    Comment by P120D1GY — September 8, 2008 @ 11:54 pm

  46. > I should point out this feature can be disabled by going to Options -> Manage -> Uncheck “Use a suggestion …”

    Before I go absolutely insane with paranoia, could someone PLEASE verify that this checkbox actually works as intended.

    On my Win2k3 SP2 machine chrome keeps baking cookies and suggesting things, even in incognito mode.

    Comment by Rydell Stevens — September 9, 2008 @ 5:57 am

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  48. You’re still missing the point from this article. If you’re looking for something and you press the link and gets recorded, well at least you know it’s being recorded and never click on something suspicious.

    Let’s say for example, I’m looking for a song to download or a crack to test the full features of a software before I buy it, If I’m looking that up in a search engine, they’ll know about me since this is illegal. But If I already know the website I need to access and I’m typing it in my browser’s address bar, I don’t want them to know about it.

    This is just one example of privacy invasion. In addition to the fact that I don’t want to allow them to record my URLs, searches, etc.

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  54. wow, amazing thx for the info, wouldn’t have known about this otherwise

    Comment by kingdom media — September 16, 2008 @ 10:18 pm

  55. Maybe this will help?
    http://www.softarchive.net/internet_tools/google_chrome_privacy_pack_v:97689.html

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  58. I discovered a major privacy vulnerability in Google Toolbar. Most people know that to clear your search history, you click “clear history” in the drop-down menu that appears under the search box. But this only clears your WEB search history! What people don’t know is that there is a separate search history for Google Images, Google News, Google Groups, etc. These additional histories DO NOT CLEAR when you clear your web search history! If you click on the little square icon with a ‘G’ on the inside left of the search box, you can switch the search function to images, news, maps, groups, etc. The little square icon will change when you do this, and the search history for EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER TYPED will be available for those search types, no matter how many times you have cleared the web search history! The “clear history” option is not global!

    So, if you have ever searched Google Images, Google Groups, Google News, etc and have not cleared the history list for each one, everything you have ever searched for in those is still available for anyone to view.

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  60. thanks for the article. pay no attention to the disinformation trolls here telling you this is no big deal. they are hired writers that work for PR. they say no big deal. blah, blah, blah. but if it wasn’t a big deal, then you wouldn’t see so much energy spent on trying to convince you that this isn’t a breach of privacy.

    Comment by tadair — November 11, 2008 @ 4:55 pm

  61. Can’t say I’m worried, let them know that I download songs and watch movies, they can kiss my ass, try and prove it was me and not a hacker accessing my wireless modem, my computer will be smashed in my bath tub as soon as I see those ‘vans’ pull up, lol. Mmmkay??

    Comment by RoflCopterz — December 2, 2008 @ 7:35 pm

  62. I love FF, and will stick to it.

    Comment by leather beds — December 7, 2008 @ 8:49 pm

  63. Hey you all who think this is nothing to worry about:
    THIS IS HOW THE FUTURE IS BEING SHAPED. You yourselves are taking part in creating the possible Orwellian control state. If your kids could go back in time from 2050 to this day to witness your statements now, what do you think they would think of you?

    Comment by Zimba — December 19, 2008 @ 7:38 am

  64. Feel free to have a look at http://goit-postal.blogspot.com/2008/12/google-chrome-without-data-sniffing.html – a browser fork named Iron is out there and it has no “data features” included… ;-)

    P.S.: The so called “privacy packs” do not really help afaik.

    Comment by Georgi — December 22, 2008 @ 12:48 pm

  65. The situation is not as worse as it is listed here…..I hope…!!!with the final release..

    Comment by krishna — December 27, 2008 @ 5:04 pm

  66. Personally I’m still sticking with Firefox, mainly because of all it’s addons. I like what I’ve seen of Google Chrome, and will probably give it another go once it is out of beta (All Google software comes out of beta eventually, doesn’t it? :P)

    Comment by mark — January 6, 2009 @ 2:58 am

  67. Actually, the firefox I have uses the Google Suggest.

    Oh well, there goes that crazy rant.

    Comment by myron — February 1, 2009 @ 12:17 pm

  68. With firefox beginning to suck (no offence, I was a die-hard FF fan until I updated TO 3.0) and chrome with privacy concerns, this is beggining to get a little worrisome.

    Comment by Rear Guy — February 2, 2009 @ 7:30 pm

    • try Opera, it’s the safest browser, and the fastest, ans the sexiest, and the lightest…

      Comment by Jean — September 4, 2009 @ 6:51 pm

  69. it is a very nice desine

    Comment by Bob — April 19, 2009 @ 2:01 pm

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  71. It’s much worse than people realize.

    If Google uses the combined OS/Browser to cache info on the Google cloud, whether they anonymize it or not, they can do much more than just know what URL you are searching.

    They can look at the cache an VIEW the same page you are viewing. With an integrated browser, they have no constraints on where the page is cached.

    Which means … even if they don’t have your password for a secured site, they can still see what you are seeing (you’ve logged in for them) via packet sniff or system administrator monitor.

    The court ruled that Microsoft violated antitrust rules when they tried to integrate and bundle the browser with the OS.

    Google has taken this troubling development one step farther. They not only are integrating the browser and the OS, but they are storing the data YOUR DATA on their system. In other words, it’s no longer yours. You have no control over what they do with it or whether they view it.

    This situation is far more serious than the problems caused by Microsoft’s attempts to integrate browser and OS. This gives Google the technology to spy on everything you visit, not just the URL or partial URL, but the actual data on the page, the data in the cache. Reconstructing it on their system would be trivial.

    They would be the most powerful entity on the planet if they had this capability and naive users might hand it to them because they don’t understand the technology.

    Comment by wordpressreader — July 13, 2009 @ 3:04 am

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  73. one might say that privacy is only important for those who do “bad” things, and that one should avoid doing such things, and to some extent I would agree with the earlier sections of the statement.

    privacy is for bad people. but what is a bad person? in this world, being jewish, black, gay, ugly, fat, demented, and so forth can mean you are bad and can lead you to be subjected to the forces of the social world.

    maybe as a result of being detestable, you might find an unwelcoming party waiting for you in the bathroom when you didn’t expect it. maybe you don’t get a position at work that you would’ve otherwise gotten if your name didn’t sound like Osama or Ahmadinejad.

    maybe the insight, the helpful, humanistic insight you provide to your community is now useless because someone found out that you’re a woman. a woman who isn’t even controlled by a God-loving man!

    maybe privacy is for bad people – it’s for the bad people who don’t want to get fucked by the good people.

    Comment by casualsurfer — August 16, 2009 @ 7:27 am

  74. and what about chromes “anything you upload belongs to us” policy (only lightly paraphrased lol)

    sounds like the bigger issue, that if i upload my 5 million dollar (i wish) piece of software, they instantly own it. legally. fuck that.

    Comment by Anonymous — August 26, 2009 @ 3:29 am

    • 8.4 Google acknowledges and agrees that it obtains no right, title or interest from you (or your licensors) under these Terms in or to any Content that you submit, post, transmit or display on, or through, the Services, including any intellectual property rights which subsist in that Content (whether those rights happen to be registered or not, and wherever in the world those rights may exist). Unless you have agreed otherwise in writing with Google, you agree that you are responsible for protecting and enforcing those rights and that Google has no obligation to do so on your behalf.

      Comment by Anonymous — June 15, 2011 @ 12:47 am

  75. Oh, and on the new BETA of Google Chrome it auto-opts out of “use SSL 2.0.” I am not entirely sure what this means, but doesn’t SSL involve privacy?

    Comment by Anonymous — September 7, 2009 @ 3:46 am

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  77. Yet also Opera works like Chrome. One can just use the address bar for a search. And that search will be done bij Google. Try it, you will see a lot of your history show up in the address bar. So, using Opera that way may not be that much different. Google pays Opera for using their engine. So, where will the information be stored?

    Comment by Alfred — October 7, 2009 @ 2:43 am

  78. Google always rocks.
    Technology and software-Google is always the best.

    Comment by TechSW — November 7, 2009 @ 4:07 pm

  79. [...] It basically was an cyber-attack originating from China, targetting google mail accounts of chinese human rights activists and non-chinese advocates of human rights in China. Fortunately, the attack was not a huge success, meaning not much data was compromised. Maybe some of you know Google’s “Don’t be evil”-slogan and how ridiculous it sometimes seemed, since they censored stuff and (still) collect fast amounts of user data. [...]

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  81. I think I’ll stick with Firefox, I’m using 3.6 and its pretty quick, sure Chrome may perform faster but to the average user it’s barely noticeable. FF with adblock plus is the way to go, I could never imagine life without it, I’m sure Firefox will be overtaken by Chrome one day and that will be sad.

    When I think of Google, I keep thinking Skynet (one for the Terminator fans), lol, just joking but I think it’s idiotic to hand over so much information to a corporation

    Comment by Jonah — February 6, 2010 @ 11:26 am

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  84. Google’s sponsorship of FireFox/Mozilla makes me wonder what sort of information they’re gleaning through FireFox.

    Comment by Sataris — May 29, 2010 @ 8:11 am

  85. I know this is bad, so I used SRWare iron, srware.net/en

    Comment by your mother — June 7, 2010 @ 1:34 pm

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  87. Regardless of the website used, expect to be tracked, for “”authorities are interested in your actions””, this is an action taken since the beginning of recorded history and will continue until the extinction of mankind (Sooner than we think). Sad that we need to justify any action much less those we consider educational for personall reasons.I’m too damn old to care about personall privacy, but realize issues presented through secret intrevention which has occurred since recorded history.Orwells “1984″ film about “BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING” comes to mind. Keep this in perspective you of the younger generation, and realize the advancements to technologies since my generation.Be AWARE of the potential chasing you.

    Comment by Len MacKay — September 3, 2010 @ 3:45 pm

  88. Google doesn’t get it. Anonimizing the service is simply not enough. The point is they shouldn’t be watching what I type into the URL to begin! That’s like saying it’s ok to install cameras in the bathroom because you remove the faces after 24 hours.

    Comment by NotThePoint — September 4, 2010 @ 10:19 pm

  89. I will no longer use chrome.

    Comment by Andrew — November 28, 2010 @ 1:06 am

  90. Bye-bye chrome (and Android, BTW). Hello Iron (and Symbian).

    Comment by Snuglz — December 16, 2010 @ 3:00 am

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    Comment by Anonymous — April 3, 2011 @ 9:12 am

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  94. What’s the problem? Google gets your search anyway when you press Enter, the only additional info they get from this tracking data is how many spelling mistakes you’re making. And you get the benefit of not having to necessarily type the whole string before your search completes

    Comment by Anonymous — June 15, 2011 @ 12:27 am

  95. The problem I have is I don’t like searching on ebay for a tablet for my kids birthday, and then suddenly, I fork a new tab to google the specs of a particular tablet, and I have an advertising banner that says “Apps. Angry Birds is in the Chrome Web Store”. At first I found this highly coincidental, but then chrome went back to normal. 2 days later, I go to look at tablets on ebay again, i fire up a new tab to search the specs of a particular tablet, and again I get advertising for the Google appstore. It seems pretty evident that my activities are being monitored and advertising is being pointed at me based on the URLS I am visiting (of which ebay use very long ones like /Some-Tablet-For-Sale-7″-3G-etc-etc/ so its pretty damned obvious use using a textual analysis of the URL what I’m looking at. I still find leveraging off this to give me a targetted ad, without my consent, a gross invasion of my privacy.

    Comment by Matt — July 8, 2011 @ 10:08 am

  96. There is another side to the browser search issues that I never see referenced anywhere. Internet search is not all about tastes and desires. Sometimes you need to research something you don’t personally want to have. It is not a personal preference, but it may be your responsibility. Clinic purchasers research lots of pharmaceuticals, syringes, and condom specifications. That doesn’t mean they are addicts or want to learn where they can get recreational drugs on the net. (Condoms, it turns out, vary widely in composition, diameter, length, strength, as well as the other features for which they may be better known like color, flavor, texture, etc. If your clinic offers too narrow of a product range, patients may not realize there are products that could work for them and have more unprotected sex, placing them at greater risk of STDs.) Responsible parents research things they hear their kids or neighbors talk about because they want to protect them against harmful products or influences, STDs, and other bad outcomes. Cops research pedophiles. The cops doubtless have special firewalls or other protections built into their work senvironments, but the rest of us don’t necessarily get those protections. We shouldn’t all have to set up anonymous email accounts on separate computers to avoid having “helpful suggestions” that constantly remind us of these things and associate our personal identities with them. The idea that everyone who searches for something wants to have it, and have it on and ongoing basis, is absurd. This is the fundamental flaw I see in all interenet search.

    Comment by KS — September 14, 2011 @ 2:01 pm

  97. This webpage is not available
    The webpage at https://mail.google.com/mail/?tab=wm might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
    Error 201 (net::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID): Unknown error.

    Comment by chathura Rathnayake — November 27, 2011 @ 6:56 am

  98. What about chromium?

    Comment by Muhammad Shoaib — January 26, 2012 @ 10:00 am

  99. Dictatorships LOVE Google. But then, what else do you expect from a phony bunch of Russian billionaires who learned the game of power from their motherland, the USSR?

    Comment by Anonymous — February 12, 2012 @ 8:13 pm

  100. To all the idiots who say “if you’re doing nothing wrong”… Let me spell this out for you.
    Google are now collecting every URL that you enter.

    Lets say you enter the URL of two companies, “Ford” and “General Motors”. URL’s not search engine queries. Next you decide to do a search engine querey for Mazda dealers near you.

    Google looks at your query, AND it looks at your previous URL searches. Google may now chose not to give you a generic response to your search for the word “Mazda”. Instead, it fills teh search response with people who have paid to be there. People who are competitors of the three firms.

    Google has your IP address. It probably has your email. It may have your home address and phone number. Suddenly you start receiving SPAM from these advertisers, on the phone, in your email and through your letter box.

    Google data miners collect data on you and your family. They can quickly sell a profile of you to anyone who wants the information. How often you switch gas suppliers, when your home insurance is due. How often you use ebay, gamble on line, what your hobbies are, who you bank with, where you went on holiday.

    I realised that Chrome was doing this 20 minutes ago. I love it, it’s a great little browser, but it will be uninstalled in 5 minutes time.

    Comment by Mikers — March 1, 2012 @ 5:17 pm

  101. I have to agree with those concerned for the future. Small changes like this may make for a world nobody wants to live in. If you dont draw the line now, precidents have been set and you may find they are hard to overturn. Privacy is not only for those who break the law. I close the door when i go to the bathroom, not because taking a dump is illegal, but because i’d like some privacy. We put blinds on our windows not to hide our criminal activities but because privacy is a principle of humany society. Sex in public is prohibited, this MUST be performed in private. Privacy is the cornerstone of human rights, and allowing a company to retain everything you do when at your computer is simply ignorant. Im removing everything google from my computer and i’ll likely install some packet sniffing tools to monitor what other applications send. I hope others out there will take notice of these sublte liberties we’re giving up, and do something to stop it. Join me…REMOVE/BOYCOTT GOOGLE APPLICATIONS.

    Comment by Concerned Citizen 17 — March 1, 2012 @ 7:33 pm

  102. When I originally commented I appear to have clicked on the -Notify me when new comments are added- checkbox and now each time a comment is added I recieve 4 emails with the exact same comment. Is there a way you are able to remove me from that service? Thanks a lot!

    Comment by webtrafficspecialist — March 10, 2012 @ 10:09 pm

  103. Use Iron, idiots
    ;-)

    Comment by Raff_the_Math — March 30, 2012 @ 6:37 pm

  104. It is a bit scary. At some point or another, data will leak. It happened before for another company, it probably will happen to Google at some point.
    Ok, we all search for things we are embarrassed to talk about, some things we may feel we would have to leave this planet if they got out in the open, but in reality these things aren’t going to be publicized even if they are stolen, and if there is any harm, just sue them to hell.

    To be honest, what I am more scared of is linking accounts. All accounts everywhere seem to be linking together now. Is it really safe? It’s not like we use different passwords for the zillion accounts we have to make on the web.

    Comment by Damien Golding — May 22, 2012 @ 7:36 am

  105. google is the satan they r scary they dont care they need 2 b sued they let others place false info on u and dont click on a site every site out there has your info and they wont correct it if any of the complaints secide 2 sue im with u i uninstalled mi google chorme its the satains web site, later im even scared 2 submit this form cause the want your name scary e mail scary website scary

    Comment by Anonymous — January 26, 2013 @ 8:21 am

  106. Great post! Autor you have right!

    Comment by upload — February 1, 2013 @ 3:37 pm

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  109. And all this data, straight to the NSA, of course!… But who wouldn’t expect it, eh?…

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  112. The feature can be disabled so that it does not send any data. Why don’t you read and learn before ranting?

    Comment by Anonymous — October 21, 2013 @ 6:44 pm

  113. I’m quite astonished by the type of conversation that arose here. WOW, Google, really grinds your gears, doesn’t it? To be fair, I think it’s quite important to know what is happening to your personal data and all of that, but I can’t totally agree with the statement that ‘Google will know everything about you once you use their search engine.’ I mean, yes, they do scan through the phrases you look for but..that’s how they work! (96% of their annual revenue comes from advertising, DUH!) And together with that you get the good quality of search. So maybe before you start to panic, install AdBlock if you’re really bothered by the ads poping up on the websites and yeah..don’t expect Google to come after you.

    Comment by prethicsandissues — November 27, 2013 @ 10:00 am


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